{"id":123361,"date":"2026-08-20T16:18:30","date_gmt":"2026-08-20T13:18:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/urbeamea.ro\/albaiulia\/?p=123361"},"modified":"2026-08-20T16:35:25","modified_gmt":"2026-08-20T13:35:25","slug":"romanul-care-deschide-usile-vienei-pentru-pacientii-din-alba-alexandru-pop","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/urbeamea.ro\/albaiulia\/romanul-care-deschide-usile-vienei-pentru-pacientii-din-alba-alexandru-pop\/","title":{"rendered":"Rom\u00e2nul care deschide u\u0219ile Vienei pentru pacien\u021bii din Alba – Alexandru Pop"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

\u201eRezultatul biopsiei \u00eentr-o s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103”<\/em> <\/h1>\n\n\n\n

Alexandru Pop este Head of International Business and Patient Management la ATOMOS Klinik W\u00e4hring, clinic\u0103 privat\u0103 din districtul 18 al Vienei. Prin parteneriatul cu Med7 (www.med7.ro<\/a>), pacien\u021bi din Alba ajung s\u0103 fie evalua\u021bi de echipe multidisciplinare austriece \u2014 de multe ori f\u0103r\u0103 s\u0103 plece de acas\u0103 la prima etap\u0103.<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

\u00centr-un cabinet din Kreuzgasse 17\u201319, la c\u00e2teva sta\u021bii de metrou de centrul Vienei, se deschid zilnic plicuri \u0219i fi\u0219iere venite din Rom\u00e2nia: buletine de analize, CD-uri cu imagistic\u0103, scrisori medicale scanate \u00een grab\u0103. La cap\u0103tul lor st\u0103 un om care vorbe\u0219te rom\u00e2na \u0219i care are o singur\u0103 sarcin\u0103 \u2014 s\u0103 transforme un teanc de h\u00e2rtii \u00eentr-un plan de tratament. Alexandru Pop conduce departamentul de pacien\u021bi interna\u021bionali al ATOMOS Klinik W\u00e4hring. L-am \u00eentrebat ce se schimb\u0103, concret, pentru un bolnav din Alba atunci c\u00e2nd dosarul lui ajunge la Viena.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Revista Urbea Mea<\/strong>:<\/strong> Domnule Pop, cum se explic\u0103 unui cititor care n-a fost niciodat\u0103 tratat \u00een str\u0103in\u0103tate ce face\u021bi dumneavoastr\u0103, mai exact?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Alexandru Pop<\/strong>:<\/strong> Cel mai simplu: sunt omul care nu las\u0103 pacientul singur \u00eentre dou\u0103 u\u0219i. La noi, \u201eInternational Business and Patient Management” nu \u00eenseamn\u0103 doar contracte \u0219i parteneriate, \u00eenseamn\u0103 \u0219i ca doamna de 62 de ani din Aiud, care nu vorbe\u0219te german\u0103, s\u0103 \u0219tie exact unde are programare, cine o a\u0219teapt\u0103 la recep\u021bie, ce h\u00e2rtii trebuie s\u0103 aib\u0103 la ea \u0219i cine \u00eei traduce ce spune chirurgul. Partea de business \u0219i partea de pacient sunt acela\u0219i lucru, de fapt. Dac\u0103 pacientul se r\u0103t\u0103ce\u0219te \u00een sistem, nu mai exist\u0103 niciun business.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Revista Urbea Mea<\/strong>:<\/strong> Ce este ATOMOS Klinik W\u00e4hring pentru cineva care aude numele prima dat\u0103?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Alexandru Pop<\/strong>:<\/strong> E o clinic\u0103 privat\u0103 din districtul 18 al Vienei, W\u00e4hring, deschis\u0103 \u00een 2019. Ca dimensiune, nu e un spital-ora\u0219, cum e AKH. Ca structur\u0103, are peste dou\u0103zeci de departamente \u0219i mai multe centre de competen\u021b\u0103 \u2014 chirurgia s\u00e2nului, chirurgia plastic\u0103 \u0219i reconstructiv\u0103, chirurgia obezit\u0103\u021bii, proctologie, dermatologie \u0219i cancer de piele, chirurgie buco-maxilo-facial\u0103, ortopedie, urologie, ginecologie, pneumologie. Direc\u021bia medical\u0103 o are Prim. Univ.-Doz. Dr. Artur Worseg. Diferen\u021ba fa\u021b\u0103 de ce \u0219tie lumea din Rom\u00e2nia nu st\u0103 \u00een aparate \u2014 aparate bune sunt \u0219i la Bucure\u0219ti, \u0219i la Cluj. St\u0103 \u00een felul \u00een care e organizat drumul pacientului \u0219i \u00eentregul protocol medical.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Revista Urbea Mea<\/strong>:<\/strong> S\u0103 intr\u0103m \u00een concret. Ce cazuri oncologice prelua\u021bi?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Alexandru Pop<\/strong>:<\/strong> Oncologia \u0219i hematologia le trat\u0103m pe subspecialit\u0103\u021bi, nu \u201ela gr\u0103mad\u0103” \u2014 \u0219i le trat\u0103m la noi, la ATOMOS, sub acela\u0219i acoperi\u0219. Practic acoperim:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u2022   ginecologie oncologic\u0103 \u2014 cancer mamar, endometrial, ovarian, vaginal;<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u2022   urologie \u2014 cel mai frecvent cancerul de prostat\u0103 \u0219i cel de vezic\u0103 urinar\u0103, unde avem abord\u0103ri cu rezultate foarte bune;<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u2022   chirurgie buco-maxilo-facial\u0103 \u2014 aici lucr\u0103m pe protocoalele Prof. Dr. Emeka Nkenke;<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u2022   gastroenterologie \u2014 malignit\u0103\u021bi ale stomacului, esofagului, colonului \u0219i rectului;<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u2022   ORL \u2014 \u0219i aici mergem pe supraspecializare: un medic pentru nas, altul strict pe ureche, altul pe g\u00e2t;<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u2022   dermatologie;<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u2022   pneumologie;<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u2022   hematologie \u2014 cancerele de s\u00e2nge \u0219i ale sistemului limfatic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Revista Urbea Mea<\/strong>:<\/strong> De ce insista\u021bi pe supraspecializare? Un ORL-ist bun nu le poate face pe toate?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Alexandru Pop<\/strong>:<\/strong> Poate, \u0219i mul\u021bi o fac onorabil. Dar c\u00e2nd vorbim de o tumor\u0103 la nivelul laringelui, vrei omul care opereaz\u0103 exclusiv g\u00e2tul de cincisprezece ani, nu pe cel care face \u0219i septuri deviate, \u0219i timpanoplastii, \u0219i tiroide. La volumul \u0103sta de cazuri, experien\u021ba nu se mai m\u0103soar\u0103 \u00een ani, se m\u0103soar\u0103 \u00een repeti\u021bii.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Revista Urbea Mea<\/strong>:<\/strong> Pacien\u021bii rom\u00e2ni se pl\u00e2ng cel mai des de a\u0219teptare. C\u00e2t dureaz\u0103 la dumneavoastr\u0103?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Alexandru Pop<\/strong>:<\/strong> Aici e, sincer, cea mai mare diferen\u021b\u0103 \u0219i cel mai mare motiv pentru care oamenii ne caut\u0103. Abordarea e minu\u021bioas\u0103, dar rapid\u0103. Dup\u0103 o biopsie sau dup\u0103 o interven\u021bie, scoatem rezultatele \u00een timpi record \u2014 maximum o s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103. Nu e un record de imagine, e o consecin\u021b\u0103 medical\u0103 direct\u0103: \u00een oncologie, fiecare s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103 pierdut\u0103 \u00eentre suspiciune \u0219i diagnostic de certitudine e o s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een care boala \u00ee\u0219i vede de treab\u0103, iar tu nu. Am avut pacien\u021bi care a\u0219teptau de o lun\u0103 \u0219i jum\u0103tate un rezultat histopatologic \u0219i care au pl\u00e2ns \u00een birou c\u00e2nd l-au primit \u00een \u0219apte zile.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Revista Urbea Mea<\/strong>:<\/strong> \u00cen afar\u0103 de oncologie, ce altceva acoperi\u021bi pentru pacien\u021bii din Rom\u00e2nia?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Alexandru Pop<\/strong>:<\/strong> Ortopedia \u0219i traumatologia sunt a doua zon\u0103 mare. Mergem de la fracturi simple \u0219i rupturi de ligamente, p\u00e2n\u0103 la implanturi par\u021biale sau complete \u2014 genunchi, \u0219old \u2014 \u0219i interven\u021bii complicate, revizii, cazuri care au fost deja operate o dat\u0103 \u0219i n-au ie\u0219it bine. Ortopedia are avantajul c\u0103 e foarte previzibil\u0103 ca durat\u0103 \u0219i ca pre\u021b, spre deosebire de oncologie. Un pacient \u0219tie din start c\u00e2te zile st\u0103 internat \u0219i c\u00e2t cost\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Revista Urbea Mea<\/strong>:<\/strong> Cum ajunge, practic, un om din Alba Iulia la dumneavoastr\u0103?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Alexandru Pop:<\/strong> Prin partenerii no\u0219tri din Rom\u00e2nia, prin Med7.ro<\/a><\/strong> Pacientul le trimite dosarul \u2014 analize, imagistic\u0103, scrisori medicale \u2014 printr-un formular securizat sau pe WhatsApp. Nu trebuie s\u0103 vin\u0103 nic\u0103ieri \u0219i nu pl\u0103te\u0219te nimic pentru etapa asta. \u00cen 48 de ore \u00eei spunem unde st\u0103m: ce medic specialist e potrivit pentru cazul lui, ce documente mai lipsesc \u0219i c\u00e2t cost\u0103 evaluarea propriu-zis\u0103. Dac\u0103 merge mai departe, prime\u0219te un plan cu recomand\u0103ri, cu estimare de costuri \u0219i cu un calendar. De acolo preia un case manager care se ocup\u0103 de program\u0103ri, de documente \u0219i de traduceri, \u0219i care vorbe\u0219te limba pacientului.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Revista Urbea Mea<\/strong>:<\/strong> Se spune des c\u0103 \u201ea doua opinie e gratuit\u0103”. Ce este gratuit, mai exact, \u0219i ce nu?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Alexandru Pop<\/strong>:<\/strong> Aici vreau s\u0103 fiu foarte clar, pentru c\u0103 oamenii aud \u201egratuit” \u0219i \u00een\u021beleg altceva. Gratuit\u0103 este organizarea dosarului medical. Adic\u0103 lu\u0103m actele a\u0219a cum vin \u2014 de multe ori un teanc \u00een dezordine, cu h\u00e2rtii din trei ani \u0219i un CD de la imagistic\u0103 \u2014, le punem \u00een ordine, vedem ce lipse\u0219te, spunem exact ce mai trebuie adus \u0219i stabilim c\u0103tre ce specialist trebuie s\u0103 mearg\u0103 cazul. Munca asta n-o tax\u0103m. A doua opinie medical\u0103 propriu-zis\u0103, adic\u0103 timpul \u00een care un specialist studiaz\u0103 cazul \u0219i \u00ee\u0219i asum\u0103 \u00een scris o concluzie, se pl\u0103te\u0219te. N-a\u0219 putea spune altceva: e timp de medic, nu e o formalitate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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\u201eRug\u0103mintea mea este niciodat\u0103 s\u0103 nu v\u0103 pierde\u021bi speran\u021ba\u201d<\/em><\/p>\nAlexandru Pop<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Revista Urbea Mea<\/strong>:<\/strong> De ce a\u021bi ales s\u0103 face\u021bi gratuit\u0103 tocmai partea de organizare?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Alexandru Pop<\/strong>:<\/strong> Pentru c\u0103 acolo se pierd cei mai mul\u021bi oameni. Nu la bani, ci la haos. Un dosar prost str\u00e2ns trimite pacientul la specialistul gre\u0219it, iar drumul gre\u0219it cost\u0103 mult mai mult dec\u00e2t orice consulta\u021bie. \u0218i mai e ceva: se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103 des ca, pun\u00e2nd dosarul \u00een ordine, s\u0103 vedem c\u0103 omul are deja acas\u0103 tot ce-i trebuie \u0219i c\u0103 nu are rost s\u0103 fac\u0103 drumul p\u00e2n\u0103 la Viena. I-o spunem, chiar dac\u0103 \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 nu c\u00e2\u0219tig\u0103m nimic din cazul acela. Dac\u0103 i-am fi luat bani ca s\u0103 ajungem la concluzia asta, s-ar fi sim\u021bit \u00een\u0219elat \u2014 pe bun\u0103 dreptate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Revista Urbea Mea<\/strong>:<\/strong> Se schimb\u0103 des diagnosticul?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Alexandru Pop<\/strong>:<\/strong> Nu des, dar destul de des c\u00e2t s\u0103 merite \u00eentrebarea. Cel mai adesea nu se schimb\u0103 \u201eboala”, se schimb\u0103 stadializarea, se schimb\u0103 ordinea \u2014 se opereaz\u0103 \u00eent\u00e2i \u0219i apoi se face chimioterapie, sau invers \u2014 sau se schimb\u0103 tehnica chirurgical\u0103, ceea ce pentru pacient \u00eenseamn\u0103 alt\u0103 calitate a vie\u021bii dup\u0103. Asta e miza real\u0103 a unei a doua opinii. Nu miracolul, ci decizia mai bun\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Revista Urbea Mea<\/strong>:<\/strong> C\u00e2t cost\u0103? \u00centrebarea pe care o are toat\u0103 lumea \u00een cap.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Alexandru Pop<\/strong>:<\/strong> Depinde total de caz \u0219i n-a\u0219 vrea s\u0103 arunc cifre, ar fi necinstit. Ce pot s\u0103 spun e c\u0103 fiecare pacient prime\u0219te o estimare scris\u0103 \u00eenainte s\u0103 ia decizia, nu dup\u0103. Nu lucr\u0103m cu \u201evedem noi la fa\u021ba locului”. Iar o parte dintre pacien\u021bi au asigur\u0103ri private care acoper\u0103 tratamente \u00een UE \u2014 merit\u0103 verificat, mul\u021bi nici nu \u0219tiu ce au \u00een poli\u021b\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Revista Urbea Mea<\/strong>:<\/strong> Ce gre\u0219eal\u0103 fac cel mai des pacien\u021bii rom\u00e2ni, din ce vede\u021bi dumneavoastr\u0103?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Alexandru Pop<\/strong>:<\/strong> Vin t\u00e2rziu \u0219i vin cu dosarul incomplet. T\u00e2rziu, pentru c\u0103 am\u00e2n\u0103 \u2014 \u201emai stau, mai v\u0103d, poate trece”. Incomplet, pentru c\u0103 aduc doar ultima h\u00e2rtie, cea mai recent\u0103, \u0219i cred c\u0103 restul nu mai conteaz\u0103. Or, pentru un medic, evolu\u021bia e informa\u021bia. Un RMN de acum opt luni pus l\u00e2ng\u0103 cel de acum dou\u0103 s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni spune mai mult dec\u00e2t am\u00e2ndou\u0103 separat. Sfatul meu, foarte practic: scana\u021bi tot, p\u0103stra\u021bi tot, \u00eentr-un singur dosar, inclusiv CD-urile de la imagistic\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Revista Urbea Mea<\/strong>:<\/strong> Sunte\u021bi rom\u00e2n \u0219i lucra\u021bi \u00eentr-un sistem austriac. Ce a\u021bi lua de acolo \u0219i a\u021bi aduce aici?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Alexandru Pop<\/strong>:<\/strong> Nu banii, cum s-ar a\u0219tepta lumea. Predictibilitatea. \u00cen Austria, pacientul \u0219tie cine r\u0103spunde de el. Are un nume, un telefon, o or\u0103. La noi, foarte des, pacientul e cel care alearg\u0103 \u00eentre servicii \u0219i \u00ee\u0219i car\u0103 singur dosarul de la un etaj la altul. Medicii rom\u00e2ni sunt buni \u2014 o spun dup\u0103 ani \u00een care am v\u0103zut \u0219i una, \u0219i alta. Ce lipse\u0219te nu e \u0219tiin\u021ba, e organizarea \u00een jurul omului bolnav \u0219i c\u00e2t este \u201cpermis\u201d s\u0103 se fac\u0103 pentru pacient din punct de vedere al timpului \u0219i resurselor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Revista Urbea Mea<\/strong>:<\/strong> Un mesaj pentru cititorii care au acum, \u00een cas\u0103, un rezultat care \u00eei sperie?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Alexandru Pop<\/strong>:<\/strong> Nu r\u0103m\u00e2ne\u021bi cu \u00eentrebarea nepus\u0103. Trimiterea \u0219i organizarea dosarului nu v\u0103 cost\u0103 nimic \u0219i nu v\u0103 oblig\u0103 la nimic \u2014 abia dup\u0103 aceea decide\u021bi dac\u0103 merge\u021bi mai departe \u0219i cu ce costuri. \u00cen cel mai bun caz, afla\u021bi c\u0103 sunte\u021bi pe drumul cel bun. \u00cen cel mai r\u0103u caz, afla\u021bi devreme. \u0218i \u00een oncologie, \u201edevreme” e cuv\u00e2ntul care conteaz\u0103 cel mai mult.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Informa\u021bii suplimentare la telefon 0741-127-087<\/a><\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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